Are Nuclear Bombs Real? Tamara Sheville and Brandon Thomas Decode the Nuke Hoax
Joining InnerVerse for their first time, Tamara Sheville and Brandon Thomas are here to explore one of the most absurd deceptions in the history of psyops.
Drawing from Tamara's background in hazardous materials, DoJ training programs and real-world chemical, biological and radiation hazard response team work, Tamara is primed to deliver a powerful truth bomb about the science of nuclear fission, why it works for power plants but will never go boom, and how the evidence from Japan's supposedly nuked cities tells a different story to the trained eye. As the co-host of the new Mysterious Universe podcast, Brandon Thomas is no stranger to fringe ideas, bringing his jovial yet razor sharp spiritual discernment to bear on the devilish details of this conspiracy. For the members we answer all the questions left on the table: the mechanics of nuclear fission and why it can't produce an explosion, the "nuclear shadows" phenomenon and why it raises serious questions, underwater tests, mushroom clouds and what actually creates those visuals, and the additional historical inconsistencies that don't line up with the official story.
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Core themes
A Truth Bomb In Verse
Chance opens in rhyme before handing the introduction to Brandon Thomas, newly minted co host of Mysterious Universe alongside Joe Hodge, who took that show over from Ben and Aaron after nineteen years. The occasion is Tamara Sheville's book Hacking Hoaxes: Nuclear Weapons Truth Bomb and Explosion of Lies, written entirely in rhyming verse, which Thomas had already covered on his show as A New Clear Perspective. All three linger on the synchronicity, since Chance was emailing Sheville the very day he first spoke with Thomas by phone, and Chance frames his opening question around Iran, suggesting nukes work as an excuse for war rather than a deterrent.
Inside The Hazmat Machine
Sheville traces her path from volunteering at a fire department and taking hazardous materials classes at the National Fire Academy to work under the Nunn Lugar Domenici Act, which trained the 120 most populated cities through tabletop and full scale chemical and biological exercises. She sat on the NFPA hazmat committee, served as curriculum coordinator for terrorism training at the Department of Justice before it joined Homeland Security, worked the Metropolitan Medical Strike Team, and handled live Sarin nerve agent at Fort McClellan. Her husband is a retired Green Beret who later worked at the Nevada Test Site, and hearing David Weiss say nukes are fake struck at her identity.
God Replaced By Government
Chance argues that for most of history a priest class warned of imminent destruction by flood or by fire from heaven unless people obeyed the intermediaries, and that once a secular society swapped God for government the same leverage required giving government the power to end the world. He calls the nuclear football a Hollywood MacGuffin, like the briefcase in Pulp Fiction or Kramer's crackers in Seinfeld, an object a plot revolves around whose contents are never shown. Sheville presses the point that Little Boy supposedly worked the first time, untested, and Thomas answers with the first crewed moon landing going perfectly on the first try.
What The Pilot Never Saw
The evidentiary core rests on Alexander de Seversky, the Russian pilot then flying for the American military, who had already surveyed Dresden, St Petersburg and 62 firebombed Japanese cities and who, Sheville says, walked Hiroshima for three days without finding a hypocenter or any of the famous shadows. She cites Michael Palmer's Hiroshima Revisited, which contends napalm and mustard blistering agent produced the injuries, alongside Thomas Judge's Oppenheimer's Deadly Toys and a declassified interim committee transcript dated May 31, 1945 in which officials concede they lacked enough uranium. She adds that the plutonium in the soil was the wrong fuel, and that Yamaguchi rode a working train between both cities.
The Demon Core And Cooling Pools
Sheville walks through subcritical, critical and supercritical states, contending that a reactor is shielded, moderated and cooled so that fission yields roughly 94 percent heat and 6 percent radiation, and that Three Mile Island, Chernobyl and Fukushima overheated rather than exploded. She recounts the two demon core deaths at Los Alamos, one in August 1945 involving dropped tungsten bricks and one involving a slipped screwdriver, each producing a blue flash and no blast. Chance offers a microwave and a sunburn as analogies for radiation that does not linger, Sheville invokes Galen Windsor swimming in cooling pools, and Thomas closes on wearing the label critical thinker.
Quotes
“That's one of the best things about this is the removal of fear. That's the whole deal, guys. It's just remove the fear and then what's left?”
“I got a job at the Department of Justice and they created the position for me. I was the curriculum coordinator for all the terrorism training for the emergency responders for the entire country.”
“But that story no longer works for a secular society that has replaced God with government. So they had to give government this supposed power to destroy the earth.”
“Little Boy worked the first time. It had never been tested. It worked the first time.”
“It's a nuke of the mind. It's a fear weapon that works for any government that's got them.”
“I didn't even cover the fusion part because that's so stupid. Compressing solid two and a half times. A solid's already a solid.”
“The sun does not create uninhabitable zones of permanent radiation after it's gone down.”
“How many nukes do you think have been blown up since they were invented? And they're like, I don't know, a few dozen. Try over 2,000.”
Tamara Sheville is the author of the Level Plane Poem series, six volumes of illustrated verse arguing that Earth is flat, level and motionless, covering curvature, surveying, navigation and celestial observation. Her sixth book, Flat Earth Fun-Damentals, makes the case that Earth is charted, mapped, flown, navigated, surveyed, engineered, constructed and measured flat. She has also written Nuclear Weapons Truth Bomb: An Explosion of Lies, a book length work in rhyming verse that takes apart the physics of the atomic bomb, a topic she approaches as a former member of the first civilian chemical biological terrorism response team.
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