Clive De Carle | Helping The Body Heal Itself: Proteolytic Enzymes & Other Nutritional Medicines
Clive De Carle returns to InnerVerse to share his nutritional knowledge about the myriad of methods to help our meat-suits mend from any and all maladies, using the building blocks of nature found in natural, food-based medicines. We discuss growing your own "garden-variety" supplements, repairing damage with proteolytic enzymes, "Factor X" and Vitamin K2, healing our teeth, medical mercury, and water strategies.
In the Plus+ Extension we talk about Clive's experience with mitigating diabetes, the connection between selenium, nutrition and willpower, the innate intelligence of the body, MSM Sulpher, fixing damaged lungs, varieties of Vitamin C, neutralizing toxic tap water with Vitamin C and Borax, wearable laser-therapy devices, and much more!
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Core themes
Clive's case for proteolytic enzymes
Clive de Carle calls proteolytic enzymes perhaps the single most important supplement, and explains his reasoning through small children who fall over and bounce back within minutes. In his view an injury can be repaired either with healthy tissue or with scar tissue, and he says our own enzyme production falls noticeably from our thirties, tipping older bodies toward scarring. He sorts most chronic illness into inflammatory 'itis' conditions and scarring 'osis' conditions, and recounts how Japanese scientists studying silkworms, whose moths dissolve a rock hard cocoon in seconds, found the bacteria behind the enzyme he now offers as Prozymes.
Vitamin K2 and the lost Activator X
Clive traces vitamin K2 to the diets of our ancestors, who mostly ate products from animals grazing fresh spring pasture. He recounts how the dentist Weston Price travelled the world studying teeth, found people on traditional diets largely free of cavities until western food arrived, and named a missing 'Activator X' that he made from spring butter and cod liver oil. For vegans Clive points to natto, the slimy fermented Japanese soybean, and he argues K2 moves calcium out of arteries and back into bones. He adds that truly healthy cows eat wildflowers, herbs and tree leaves, not just grass.
Growing your own health at home
Answering a listener question, Clive shares low effort ways to grow food at home: laying sprouting potatoes on cardboard under a thick layer of straw so their roots break up hard lawn, stacking straw, soil and potatoes inside a chicken wire barrel for vertical harvests, and replanting celery bases and lettuce ends. He suggests stretching probiotic capsules by culturing them in yogurt, milk or mashed banana, and praises fulvic minerals for energizing plants and people alike. Chance notes that freshly picked food likely carries more nutrition, while Clive argues hydroponic lettuce may never have seen soil and calls NPK fertilizer a leftover of First World War munitions.
Teeth, dentists and medical mercury
Picking up on Weston Price, Chance asks what people get wrong about dental health. Clive describes a dentist he interviewed who gave up practice to review x-rays and treatment plans for patients around the world, telling them when they are being overcharged or offered a poor filling material, and Chance recalls a childhood dentist whose scary upsell sent his family back to their trusted family dentist. Chance then links his reading on alchemy and resonance architecture to mercury amalgam fillings, and Clive recalls doctors once using mercury against syphilis, glowing mercury buoys at sea, and thimerosal in eye drops from his contact lens days.
Spring water, filters and structured water
Asked to cut through the debate over alkaline, kangen, distilled and structured water, Clive names spring water bubbling up from clean mountain sources as the best. At home he asked his supplier whether recycled sewage came out of his taps, then chose reverse osmosis over a noisy distiller, and he brings filtered water back to life with fulvic minerals, a pinch of sea salt or a spin, wondering whether distilled water might leach minerals. Chance argues that water is structured by sound, asks what a humming refrigerator does to our food, and describes playing solfeggio tones in his shower, pointing to Masaru Emoto's water experiments.
Quotes
“At the end of the day, what do we die from? Well, hopefully we want to have a great day and just pass away in our sleep, not ill with anything.”
“Your body is not low on pharmaceutical chemicals, end of story, full stop, period. What we really ought to be doing is giving the building blocks to our cellular makeup.”
“Most of our ancestors were meat eaters in one way or another. Even if it was the Maasai, they were eating, drinking blood and milk. Most of our ancestors were not vegan.”
“When it comes to our health, part of the reason why our health has suffered so much is that we're not paying attention.”
“You ask any child in the USA what do cows eat, they will tell you grass. This would be the wrong answer. Healthy cows graze on wild flowers, herbs, mushrooms.”
“Think about how dissonant the refrigerator noise is, and all your food is in the refrigerator, and how much of what is nutritious about your food has to do with what's hydrated about your food.”
“Probably the best water is spring water, and your spring water comes out of the top of mountains, for example, and I would suggest that that water is ready.”
“Generally speaking, if I'm drinking water, I'm doing something to it anyway. Put fulvic minerals in, now you've really brought that water to life.”
Clive de Carle is a natural health educator known for his research into detoxification, nutritional supplementation, and alternative healing methods, shared through his own health-products site.
See all Clive episodes→Kyle and Serena Denton are community herbalists creating wild-crafted and organic plant medicines out of Milwaukee since 2015. I have used their teas and tinctures on an almost daily basis for years now. Kyle is a great friend of InnerVerse and has appeared on the channel more times than I can count. These products work, not in the allopathic "pharma-medicine" way, but in a terrain-support, consciousness bolstering plant-teacher sort of way.
