Jason Lindgren | Secrets of Saturn: Mind Control and the EL-ite Priest Class
Jason Lindgren is the host of Secrets of Saturn and co-host of Crrow777 Radio. As a talented musician and dedicated researcher in the pursuit of Truth, Jason is just the type of person we like best on InnerVerse: jovial, knowledgeable, imaginative and interesting. This was a whirlwind conversation that covered a lot of ground, including the occult aspects of modern commerce and money, the monetary EL-ites (elites) of the world and their relationship to Saturn, the 52 year cycles of society, mind control, the idea that America's legal system is a fiction, manipulation of the music industry, and more.
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In this episode
Core themes
Saturn, Sea Law and the Dollar Bill
Jason explains that he chose Cult of Saturn as a band name so that anyone searching it would find far more than a rock group, and Secrets of Saturn as the blunter route for sharing his research. Asked about maritime admiralty law, he describes it as a law of the sea that trading nations devised for commerce and that, in his telling, came to supersede the law of the land. He urges listeners to study a one dollar bill for its occult symbols, tiny owl included, while Chance reads the all-seeing eye as the older eye single, hears mono eye inside money, and ties commerce to congress.
Paper Identities and the Corporate State
Chance suggests the control system works because most people follow it unconsciously, taught to identify with the corporation, a dead entity, rather than as living men and women. Jason offers his best guess that the republic founded in the Revolutionary War ended at the Civil War, with a corporate version taking shape around a Washington, D.C. act he places in 1869 or 1871, followed by the Federal Reserve, birth certificates and Social Security. He argues income tax was phased in gradually and the tax code kept convoluted on purpose, and when Chance calls government literally the mafia, Jason traces the Medici bloodline into Europe's royal houses and modern banking.
Cosmic Cycles and the Illusion of Power
Chance describes the 13 Moon calendar, in which a similar energy returns every 52 years, and Jason says the controllers have long passed such knowledge down in their own books, always testing, running algorithms and gathering data to learn how to push society's buttons. Chance suggests the ultimate power lies in timing events to the cycles of nature. Asked about the theory that Alex Jones is the comedian Bill Hicks recast, Jason, who once met Jones at Ground Zero, says he has looked and does not see it. Chance argues that one illusion the elites cast is that they are far more numerous and powerful than they really are.
Mind War and Psychological Immunity
Chance suggests that government can be broken into govern and ment, mind control, and argues the real world war has long been a mind war rather than a looming World War III. Jason, fresh from a Secrets of Saturn live stream on mind control as warfare, says it is far easier to get people to police themselves than to put boots on the ground. The conversation traces psychological operations through Operation Paperclip and the Cold War, and Jason links the false flag to ships running the wrong flag. Chance argues that studying mind control techniques teaches how your own mind works and brings a kind of psychological immunity.
Manufactured Culture and a Disciplined Mind
Jason argues most of the 1960s counterculture was mass social engineering built on divide and conquer, down to the Beatles versus Rolling Stones rivalry, and says celebrity is almost always given rather than earned, pointing to what he says were paid screaming fans at airports. Chance suggests real counterculture looks more like a grassroots gathering of thousands than a festival of tens of thousands. For his own practice, Jason names some meditation and a disciplined mind that lets him still enjoy the Beatles or old Star Trek, suggesting martial arts and learning to control yourself first. Chance adds that spirit can speak through art whatever its maker intended.
Quotes
“My best guess is that the United States of America that was set up with the original Revolutionary War was terminated at the Civil War.”
“You might as well call the mainstream media the division factory. The whole point is to divide humanity along as many lines as possible.”
“The vast majority of the counterculture movement and all the things that happened in the 1960s was created and pushed. It was mass social engineering.”
“The real world war has been going on for a while, and it's a mind war.”
“Here's the thing about big artists. Celebrity is given. Very rarely is it earned.”
“Whatever you learn about techniques of mind control, for example, you're actually learning about how your mind works, not just what elites are doing and trying to do to the world.”
“Learn how to control yourself before you try and control anything around you.”
“When the faculty of imagination and creativity is being evoked in a human being, regardless of their polarity, spirit can come through and provide messages that the person never intended.”
Jason Lindgren is a musician, filmmaker, and esoteric researcher who hosts Secrets of Saturn and co-hosts Crrow777 Radio, digging into occult symbolism, ancient astronomy, and mind control in modern culture.
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