Hermetic Harmonics | Chance Garton Interviewed on Loco Listens Podcast ep. 36
I joined Jake on the Loco Listens Podcast, episode 36, for a wide ranging conversation about biofield tuning, the technology of language, and astrotheology.
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In this episode
Core themes
Chance on life force as one energy
Chance described life force energy as one indivisible, self existing intelligence, and said he had stepped back from the old idea of an ether as a separate medium. He compared a person's access to that energy to a battery that can sit full or run low, and to water pressure in a bent hose. Chance argued that distance and separation are mental ideas, pointing to remote tuning sessions as his experiential evidence. Jake offered a radio tower image and a toroidal field picture, and Chance reframed the sound passing between people as a singularity rather than a triangulation.
How Chance runs a biofield tuning session
Chance explained that a session began with a few minutes of conversation and intention setting, in which he invoked what he called the supreme being. He described using dowsing rods and tuning forks to check whether the top and bottom openings of the toroidal field sat in line with the spine, then moving stuck energy into place with a click and drag motion. He said clicks in his ears told him when he had found something, and he credited Eileen Day McKusick's books as the foundation. Chance also described a yes or no method for asking the body questions.
Language, guilt, and the sacral chakra
Jake asked how Chance used language and affirmations during tunings. Chance described an area near the right hip where he said the root and sacral chakras overlap, and he argued that overworking often traced back to guilt and shame. He said the sacral chakra related to satisfaction and the root chakra to security, and that chasing satisfaction in the future pushed it further out of reach. Chance suggested choosing a belief such as being satisfied with oneself, and framed healthy work as the middle of a polarity between discipline and flexibility, a point Jake echoed with a Venn diagram.
Astrotheology, mysticism, and scientism
Jake asked Chance to introduce astrotheology, and Chance called it a useful tool for breaking out of what he named mysticism madness. He argued that scientism and mysticism were mirror dogmas, one resting on a white coat and the other on a black robe, and he cautioned against presenting subjective mystical experiences as shared truth. Chance said he viewed figures such as Odin and Mercury as literary characters that people animate through imagination, and he described the origin of that literary tradition as appearing to be astrotheology. He cited Wilhelm Reich's book Ether, God and Devil as one influence.
Technology as language and the Regulus example
Chance proposed that technology externalizes abilities people once held innately, and he noted that the Webster's 1828 sense of the word meant a treatise on the arts, so that language and technology became two names for one thing. Jake connected this to Prospero in The Tempest. Chance then walked through his own reading of the star Regulus, describing Sumerian logograms and puns that he said linked it to the Jesus story and the name Joseph. He also offered a correlation between rising literacy and fading star visibility, which he acknowledged might not be scientific.
Quotes
“The life force energy that animates all things and is the eternal self existing conscious and creative intelligence of capital R Reality is one and indivisible.”
“It really just falls on us to figure out a way to communicate with that innate intelligence of our being. And the simplest way to do that is to come up with a system of yes or no answers.”
“Prospero refers to the magic as his art. And what he's doing is he's got a wand or a special jacket and he's using language to cast spells, and that's his art. That's his tool, his trade.”
“When you get to X and Y the goalpost will be pushed further out, because it's not really about the thing itself that you're working on or the productivity itself or the time frame itself or the journey itself. It's about the configuration of your energy field.”
“Mysticism is the right brain imbalance where you take the dogma from the guy in the black robe, and then mechanism is the left brain dogma where you take the because I said so from a guy in a white coat. It's the same thing either way.”
“When we say that language is technology, then we're saying technology is language. And interestingly, the original definition of technology is actually referring to language.”
“I cannot contemplate higher truths, if you want to call it that, if my biofield isn't adjusted properly. If there's some kind of imbalance, then I won't be concerned about the constellations or whatever is above and beyond me.”
“If someone is on team Odin, that's like saying, if you speak English you're superior to someone who speaks Spanish. It's just different languages to describe a unified principle of this realm, this place that we're cohabiting together.”
