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Podcast / INNERVERSENov 4, 2024 · 1h 23m
Cosmology & Science

Science is a House of Cards? The 96% "Dark Matter" Delusion | Upside Down Cosmos with Mark Gober

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Science is a House of Cards? The 96% "Dark Matter" Delusion | Upside Down Cosmos with Mark Gober

What if the "Big Bang" and the "Infinite Void" are actually modern myths designed to keep you feeling small, insignificant, and separate from the source of your own power?

Mark Gober (Author of An End to Upside Down Cosmos) returns to InnerVerse to dismantle the "Global" deception. We dive into the "Six-Sigma" failure of Dark Matter, the occult origins of NASA, and the forensic anomalies of the Apollo missions. From the "Three-Body Problem" in gravity to the "Electric Current" that actually makes things fall, we reveal why the "Kosher Cosmology" is a spiritual war for your mind. It’s time to stop standing on a speck of dust and start standing on the living, central realm of human potential.

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Chapters

In this episode

11 chapters
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1:03:26Why Heliocentrism Feels True Anyway
1:07:03The Copernican Principle Exposed
1:09:06Hubble's Horror At A Special Earth
1:10:49What Galileo Actually Saw
1:15:15Modern Physicists Who Argue Geocentric
1:18:02Why We Can't Actually Know Yet
1:22:07Seeing Too Far To Be A Globe
1:24:27The Sextant That Breaks The Model
1:33:23Compasses That Lie In Antarctica
1:39:09Time Zones That Don't Add Up
1:43:18Astrology And What The Ancients Knew
1:52:22Is Reality Made Of Consciousness
1:56:07The Cosmic Egg And Womb Cosmology
1:58:02Choosing The Ground You Stand On

Core themes

5 themes
1

The Logic Flaw Mark Sees Everywhere

Mark explains that the path to his seventh book began far from cosmology, with the nature of consciousness, and that readers of his medicine book, who saw logical fallacies at work in allopathic medicine, kept telling him the same errors ran through cosmology. The flaw he names is affirming the consequent. If it rains the grass gets wet, but wet grass could just as easily mean a sprinkler or children with buckets. Once science locks into a model, he argues, it force fits every new observation into it, so a model that explains certain things is not proven correct, especially while anomalies it cannot explain keep piling up.

2

Questioning the Imagery From Space

Mark argues the simplest proof of a spinning globe would be one continuous video of a full rotation, and says no space agency has produced it. He argues that the last non composite image of Earth, taken in 1972, shows a disc rather than a sphere, and that a NASA artist described Photoshopping a later Blue Marble by wrapping a flat image around a ball. He cites ISS footage he says shows objects falling in supposed zero gravity, Apollo telemetry data a NASA document calls gone, and a documentary maker's tape he says shows astronauts staging Earth in a window, applying a legal maxim: fraud vitiates everything it touches.

3

Mark on Secrecy Inside the Space Program

The conversation turns to parts of NASA's history Mark says rarely get told: Wernher von Braun arriving from Nazi Germany through Operation Paperclip, Jack Parsons of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory working with Aleister Crowley and L. Ron Hubbard, and collaborations with Walt Disney. Mark doubts most employees are in on anything, drawing on his own early years in investment banking, where he built pitch books without knowing the wider context. He lists nondisclosure agreements, blackmail and, explicitly as speculation, mind control programs like MK Ultra, and recalls Russell Targ telling him NASA helped fund the government's psychic spying program.

4

What Mark Calls a Cosmological House of Cards

Mark opened his book with physics because mainstream cosmology says 96% of the universe is dark matter and dark energy. He traces dark matter to a 1933 study of the Coma galaxy cluster, where missing mass was filled with something undetected rather than questioning general relativity, and quotes a Bonn astrophysics professor who argues a simple test suggests it does not exist. Chance adds that such testing often means computer simulations built on accepted theory. Mark notes Newton's gravity cannot predict Mercury's motion, so relativity stepped in, and he floats density, buoyancy and a downward electric current as explanations others propose for why things fall.

5

The Tower of Scientific Babel

Chance brings up a graphic he remade from a recent guest's book, a Tower of Babel stacked with foundational ideas such as atomism, heliocentrism, gravity, evolution and germ theory, arguing that pulling any one out topples the Jenga tower. As someone who studies ancient esotericism, he suggests prevailing scientific paradigms are often despiritualized repackagings of old cosmologies, with the Big Bang as the cosmic egg. Mark says his book treats such beliefs as a framework for social engineering in what he calls a spiritual war, links questioning the atom to his earlier work arguing that reality is made of consciousness, and says the graphic shows society misled in many ways.

Quotes

8 quotes
“Philosophically speaking, no matter what chain of logic or evidence one builds to support their particular worldview or cosmology, there's always a foundational layer that's rooted in personal choice.”
“Just because a model can explain certain things doesn't mean that it's the correct model.”
“Things that the science puts forward as the prevailing paradigms tend to be a materialistic, as in a de-spiritualized, repackaging of old cosmologies from the ancient world.”
“I saw firsthand that you could have many worker bees, even high level worker bees who don't even know the full context. And you just need a few people who know the full story.”
“Fraud vitiates everything it touches, meaning if you see any fraud that's grounds for questioning everything.”
“Gravity's got problems when it tries to explain motion, relativity comes along and that's got problems. And then we end up with a universe where 96% of it is mysterious stuff that we plugged in.”
“Do you wanna stand on an infinitesimal speck of dust or do you wanna stand on a living, breathing parent, divine parent that is here to help you grow?”
“I would always ask the question, who are we? Why are we here? And I didn't ask what here was, I didn't say, where do we live?”
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Author and consciousness researcher

Mark Gober is an author and speaker who researches the intersection of consciousness, near-death experiences, and UFO/contact phenomena, arguing in his book "An End to Upside Down Contact" that such experiences arise from consciousness rather than physical extraterrestrial visitation.

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