Michael Wann | Rewilding Consciousness & Our Eternal Flow State with Nature
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Michael Wann, the Susquehanna Sage himself, triumphantly returns to InnerVerse for a third fantastic flow state. This time around we discuss the nature of artificial reality, how it works, and how to reconnect to the larger, truer reality of nature. Full of surprises, this conversation shows how fun it can be to break out of the molds that the parasite masters have provided for us, and find the rhythm and feeling of real life once again.
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In this episode
Core themes
A Foot in Both Worlds
Michael Wann opens by explaining why he is still online after vowing to walk away from the technosphere, a system he says was designed to be fun and addictive. He has stopped one-on-one video calls and moved much of his sharing to an audio-only show with Mark, while preparing for his first big in-person event in years. Chance answers that he needs a foot in both worlds for now, and that the real question is which foot carries the weight. He describes his remote tuning fork and divination sessions as proof, in his view, that life force energy connects people even through artificial channels.
The Internet and the Rewilding Response
Mike points out that the internet grew out of the Department of Defense, and argues that the people who sold the idea brought expertise in behavioral control, which he says is the very definition of cybernetics. He says he was raised inside that world through his schooling, jobs and family, which gives him an intimate view of what he now wants to step away from. Rewilding consciousness, as he describes it, is not moving to the wilderness but purposefully questioning inherited frames such as months, base ten numbers, the tropical zodiac and chakras, without throwing the baby out with the bath water.
From Feedback Loops to Feedback Webs
Chance shares a friend's account of orgone earth pipes planted near 5G towers across Arizona, which he links to an unusually rainy monsoon season and to Triops reappearing in the desert. He wonders whether life is a frequency, with fear narrowing the bandwidth of what people can perceive and love widening it again. He proposes feedback webs in place of cybernetic feedback loops, pointing to the body, where every organ talks to every other, and to Qigong, where imagining the energy during each movement slowly becomes a felt inner language all our own.
False Realities Must Be Fed
Mike defines a false reality as any reality that has to be fed to exist, and says the cultural one sustains itself as a closed cybernetic loop, so that everything around a person repeats the same story. Rewilding, in his telling, means stepping outside it while admitting a blind spot, and he argues that when enough people believe and act on an idea, the world really does change. Chance adds his own reading of the word cyber as a segmented psyche, contrasts I Ching hexagrams 11 and 12, peace and standstill, and argues that the Gregorian calendar chops a lunar cycle into artificial segments.
Seeing the Cave as It Collapses
Mike argues that this moment, with long-held societal promises falling away, gives everyone alive an unusual chance to see the edges of the false reality they were born into, and he compares that seeing to Plato's cave and to the finger that points at the moon. Chance describes using L rods to dowse the size of each chakra's field before his tuning fork work, which he says speeds up his sessions. Mike says that practice shows how people have been sold the idea they must go outside themselves for knowledge, when the body and its higher senses are enough.
Quotes
“What's actually happened to you is what's supposed to happen. Otherwise, something else would have happened.”
“One thing that your rewilding consciousness presentation really helped me see is that it's about which foot are you putting more weight on.”
“A false reality is any reality that must be fed to exist, or said another way, once it stops being fed it will disappear.”
“I've been calling it feedback webs instead of feedback loops because it's about every part talking to every other part.”
“When enough people begin to see something and believe something and make changes in their behavior because of it, the world does change.”
“That which is false is anything that if we stopped doing it, then eventually it wouldn't exist in nature, or it wasn't there before we started doing it.”
“We've all known we're in a cave, we just didn't know how big of the cave it was. We still don't.”
“I think that's the big hack of a staff for a wizard, is that they never lose touch with the ground.”
Michael Wann hosts Susquehanna Alchemy, approaching astrology as a tool for cosmic orientation rather than fortune-telling; he has appeared on InnerVerse multiple times, most recently discussing birth charts as maps of 'where you are in the living cosmos.'
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