Chance Garton on Mystical American Patriots Society
I had a free-wheeling conversation with Sumo on the Mystical American Patriots Society podcast, covering my path into biofield tuning, astrotheology, and the symbolism hidden in everyday words.
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In this episode
Core themes
How a flow state started a show
Chance explained that his initial goal for the InnerVerse Podcast was to capture the flow state two people reach when conversing about their passions, with the idea that everyone has had an epiphany nobody else has ever had. He described himself as a former trippy festival kid who moved toward linguistics, energy, and mythology symbolism. Asked for his strangest belief, Chance named the idea that everyone is one consciousness experiencing itself through infinite perspectives, and he said he no longer used psychedelics because he liked his life now.
Beliefs, the body, and biofield tuning
Chance said he saw injury and illness as messages about beliefs in conflict with a person's potential, and he described the root chakra as a conceptual system he linked, in his view, to to-do-list burnout and trouble sleeping. He said he learned biofield tuning from Eileen Day McKusick's books and tuning forks, practicing on friends and listeners before offering it as a service. On whether the forks work through belief or physical sound, Chance called himself a bothist and compared the forks to training wheels.
Coherence, dissonance, and the power of naming
Chance used the example of metronomes syncing up to argue that coherent sound can bring dissonance into line, and he suggested that tuning to 440 might be less coherent because of the fractional frequencies it produces. He added that coherence can also work in a negative direction, as he said he saw in media messaging. Chance and a host agreed that naming something, such as the placebo effect or pareidolia, can be a way of dismissing it, and Chance said he was still meditating on the power of names.
Astrotheology, priest craft, and a ring world
Chance said he had lots of reason to think the Bible was not a historical text and preferred to read it as allegory with astrotheology layers. He described a priest class that, in his account, derived stories from constellations and puns, calling the method the green language. Chance also said he had zero belief in what he called the scientific materialist cosmology, offering as a fun speculation that extra lands lie beyond Antarctica with Mars and Venus as their sun and moon.
Gematria, English, and one being in costumes
Chance said his friend Marty Leeds demonstrated gematria in a way that was not what he called skitzo, and Chance described a septenary cipher in which the word seven sums to 22, echoing the 22 over 7 approximation of pi. He said he leaned toward a divine rather than human origin for such patterns and called English a highly magical language. Chance also offered his view that sky father and earth mother resolve into one being, like the sun, an actor changing roles.
Quotes
“My initial goal was to just capture that flow state that comes about whenever two people are conversing about their passion endeavors.”
“Could be the idea that we're all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively through infinite perspectives.”
“There's no injury or dis-ease that is just a random thing happening to you or your body having a problem. It's always a message from your body about where your belief systems are in conflict with your potential.”
“Whenever you have dissonance and coherence in the same space, then the dissonance trains itself to the coherence rather than the coherence getting dissonance.”
“A big step up for my life was when I started interpreting the experiences I was having as if I was doing a dream interpretation and it actually applied that, oh, okay. So my life is my psyche externalized.”
“A big secret to the priest craft is the punniness of it all. So how a word might inside a word encode multiple other words, or if you break it apart, it's called the green language or the language of the birds.”
“Whenever you're aware of the universal mystery wisdom tradition, like the keys of it, the touchstones of that system, you'll find that all the Hollywood pretty much is actually repeating that system over and over again in allegories dressed up in modern or fantastical aesthetics.”
“I think that the best way to consider astrotheology, astrology, mythology is that it's one being going through different costumes. It's like the sun is an actor changing roles as it goes through different parts of the zodiac or parts of the year.”
