Natural AF Podcast Episode 7: Deep Downloads with Chance Garton
I sat down with Isaac on his Natural AF Podcast for a wide ranging chat about Biofield Tuning, how I got started, and the hidden meanings I find in words and astrology.
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In this episode
Core themes
Starting Biofield Tuning without costly gear
Chance described picking up Tuning the Human Biofield by Eileen Day McKusick in 2019 after hearing her on a few podcasts. He said that waiting for expensive titanium forks or a costly certification could be perfectionism acting as procrastination. Chance recommended starting with an inexpensive set of decent forks, learning from books and videos, and practicing on friends until feeling confident. He added that anyone with the means should still take a course if they want one. Isaac said he was curious about trying a handheld sonic slider fork.
Letter swaps and the word Hue
Chance described Isaac's toning sound Hue as a doorway into word study. He said the IHS monogram on Christian crosses was a monogram for Bacchus before it was used for Jesus, and that the Greek letters behind it can be transliterated as Hue or Yes. He also explained how H, C, and K can trade places, using horse and coarse, and heart and card as examples. Chance read the name Rus right to left as sir, linked to the sun in Hindu mythology. These were his etymological readings, and Isaac said he enjoyed the linguistic angle.
How remote tuning might work
When Isaac asked how tuning works at a distance, Chance gave his understanding that the divine spark in Genesis is the animating spirit rather than the ego self. He compared it to water in a body, a cup, and the ocean, with no true separation between the waters, and said that shared life force could explain remote energy work. Chance also described using tarot cards during sessions as a way to gather specific details. Isaac, raised Christian, reflected on how teachings about the flesh might have made body wisdom harder to trust.
Astrology as a sky clock
Chance described astrology as a sky clock, a storytelling and navigation tool in the ancient world, and said he used it mostly in hindsight to see how events lined up with transits. He said no one needs it to predict the future, and Isaac noted the caution against making it an idol. Isaac said astrology had helped him see patterns in conflict, and both discussed tense aspects as places to take action rather than blame. Chance also made his own claims about Christianity, the word Satan, and ancient priesthoods.
Reframing anxiety and inner self talk
Chance described his sense that anxiety and excitement feel the same in the body, and said he turned pre-show nerves into preparation so the show would go well. He told Isaac that his inner voice shifted from harsh to cheerleader, which he treated as a sign that things were turning around. Chance also offered his views on anger and grief as energies that become unhealthy when suppressed. Isaac said the anxiety-as-excitement idea fit how he felt while starting a new business.
Quotes
“My mental voice at one point shifted to being like a cheerleader. Literally I would like hear this voice in my head like, Chance is crushing right now, Chance is doing great, and I was like, sweet. I encouraged those thoughts.”
“The feeling that you label as anxiety is the exact feeling as being really excited about something.”
“The life force energy animating you and animating me is all one ocean of life force energy, and that as a totality you could call God.”
“Life isn't something that's happening to you, you're happening to it, and that's sort of like, you really want to be in that place where you feel that way about life, that your inner world is directing the outer world rather than the outer world shaping your inner world.”
“Don't let the whole mountain of, like, it costs so much to do this certification and I need these really expensive tools, don't let that stall you out from starting. That's really what I want people to get.”
“I'm a big into weightlifting. I'm a blue collar dude, military dude, but somehow dropped in and found my way to exploring all kinds of things with, with you, like sound healing techniques, exploring thoughts, vibrations, the aspects of water.”
“You want life to be hard because you feel like if you're not working hard, you're not achieving anything, and that can kind of trap people.”
“How would I want this to end up? I start picturing like if I'm building this big company, what would it look like, and then I get really excited and I connect to that feeling and feel the gratitude.”
