Benny Wills | Positivity, Poetry, & Stopping Our Part In The Conspiracy
Benny Wills is a truth focused poet and YouTube personality, well known for his work on the comedic conspiracy channel JoyCamp. In this meeting of the minds, we talk about Benny's journey, the grand conspiracy and how to detox ourselves from its poisons, what it's like to have a newborn in 2020, and much more. Benny also shares some profound poetry!
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In this episode
Core themes
From Hollywood Dreams to Truth Comedy
Benny grew up in Hollywood with two actor parents and chased the acting dream from childhood into his late twenties or early thirties, along the way noticing inconsistencies in official stories, questioning authority, and reaching people through comedy in ways that conversation and link sharing could not. He later tried poetry at a conference without telling anybody and now performs at truth-based conferences. He says most people in Hollywood have no idea what they are participating in, which Chance ties to the compartmentalization every mafia runs on, and Benny says it took him a long time to see that real success is simple: friends, love and family.
Who Is Really Doing the Conspiring?
Asked to define the grand conspiracy, Benny describes forces that want people distracted, unhealthy, dependent and divided, working through toxicity on every level, and he urges detoxifying physically, spiritually and emotionally. Chance turns the word around: a conspiracy is people acting in unison, so anyone willfully ignorant of what is harming them becomes a co-conspirator, and he casts levity as the opposite of that weight. Benny closes the first hour with his poem They, written for the curveball question of who they are, which runs through a long list of suspects before answering with we, us, and you and me.
Hope in a Year of Distance
Benny's positive story of 2020 is his newborn son, whose arrival in the middle of the pandemic he came to see as exactly the right time. Watching a newborn who shows only discomfort or contentment convinced him people are born needing one another, which is why he calls social distancing so destructive. Chance recalls a child hiding from a masked grandmother he did not recognize, and Benny, a self-described apocaloptimist, argues that every push of an agenda also liberates people, that the future is unwritten, and that homesteading is his answer.
Labels, Buzzwords and Word Magic
Benny's comedy channel Joy Camp was listed as far right in a late November analysis of YouTube echo chambers, which he says shows the label is not rooted in any truth, while joking that he is honored to make the cut. Chance argues society labels something and that makes it so, noting that a movement of people sharing information gets branded an echo chamber. Benny says news-trained audiences react like Pavlov's dogs to buzzwords, calling it programming through language, and Chance, whose podcast keeps bringing him back to word magic, singles out legalese, which he frames as an unchanging priestly language beside a vulgar tongue that keeps shifting.
Parrhesia and the Art of Planting Seeds
Benny spent six months building Parrhesia, a course named for a word he says means free speech, aimed at conquering the fear of speaking, finding a creative voice, and no longer being the conspiracy theorist who fire hoses people with information. You open a door and let someone walk through, he says, and the victory is when they reach the idea on their own and give you no credit. Chance likens it to scattering seeds on fertile ground instead of glaring at one in rocky soil, and Benny adds that most people resist conspiracy because they cannot accept that level of deception.
Quotes
“Bringing humor to the situation, it's not just something that will maybe hold someone's attention better, but it actually is a healing mechanism.”
“Everything is toxic, and we have to really be conscious of how to detoxify ourselves, physically, spiritually, emotionally, everything.”
“We're co-conspirators every time that we are willfully ignorant of participating in things that are harming us.”
“Even someone who claims to be an introvert or they like being alone, they still crave some kind of friendship, some kind of companionship, because that's what we are born needing.”
“Success is really much more simple. Success is having good friends and people who care about you and love in your life.”
“Everything that's the black and the darkness is also the foundation or the canvas or the manure for something else to grow.”
“You've got to open the door for someone and let them walk through and not shove them through.”
“The solution to they is we, us and you and me.”
Benny Wills is a truth-focused poet and YouTube personality best known for his work on the comedic conspiracy channel JoyCamp.
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