Origins of the Gods, Plasma Beings, and the Path of Souls | Dr. Gregory Little
Dr. Gregory Little has spent 50 years documenting UFOs, ancient mounds, and the shamanic contact traditions. His book Origins of the Gods presents plasma as the scientific bridge between transdimensional intelligence and physical manifestation.
Covers plasma as self-organizing, potentially conscious beings capable of physical manifestation inside ceremonial geometric earthworks, the Native American Path of Souls cosmology, which Greg sees as identical to ancient Egyptian afterlife belief, Andrew Collins' case for realigning Giza from Orion to Cygnus, Mothman and John Keel's paranormal view of UFOs, the Newark Ohio lunar earthworks, the two souls concept across Native American and Egyptian traditions, and the shamanic origins of contact with the divine.
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In this episode
Core themes
From Plant Labs to Prison Programs
Greg entered graduate school in psychology in 1972, when spoon bending parties, pyramid power and the idea that plants could think were in fashion, and his major professor and the professor's psychiatrist wife took him along to them every weekend. None of it could be verified, he says, except one lab test in which a philodendron wired to a physiograph reacted to the student who had secretly torn off its leaf. He went on to run a prison drug treatment program in his early twenties, built a career in criminal psychology, and wrote The Archetype Experience as a follow-up to Carl Jung's book on flying saucers.
Newark's Moon Tracking Earthworks
Greg calls the Newark Earthworks in Ohio the most extensive geometric earthworks in the world, and recalls Andrew Collins, then living at Avebury, calling them more incredible than Avebury bar the stones. The 20 acre circle and 50 acre octagon, with a flat topped mound at each of the octagon's eight points, were built, he says, to track the moon's 18.61 year cycle so eclipses could be predicted. Greg says ritual artifacts there point to psilocybin use, and where mainstream archaeology reads such rituals as hallucination, the shamans' own accounts, he says, describe manifesting physical spiritual beings inside the earthworks.
Mothman Through John Keel's Eyes
Greg describes John Keel as unpopular with other ufologists because he saw UFOs as paranormal rather than nuts and bolts, and many of Keel's ideas went into Origins of the Gods. He retells the Mothman affair at Point Pleasant, West Virginia: thirteen months of sightings of a roughly seven foot winged creature with glowing red eyes, reported, he says, by hundreds of people including National Guardsmen, ending when the bridge to Gallipolis, Ohio collapsed around Christmas. He and Andrew Collins met a restaurant owner who described it landing on the roof by her bedroom window, and Keel wrote of a curse laid on the area by the Shawnee chief Cornstalk.
Following the Milky Way to Deneb
Greg describes a death journey found across North American tribes: the soul leaps to the Orion Nebula, Messier 42, as Orion sinks below the horizon, travels the Milky Way, the path of souls, to a judge that is nearly always a raptor bird, and if it passes goes through Deneb in Cygnus as a portal to the other world. He argues the lore reaches back at least 17,000 years, to when Deneb was the pole star. After engineer Rodney Hale overlaid Cygnus on Giza, Andrew Collins argued the pyramids fit Cygnus better than Orion, while a Cheyenne arrow priest made clear the tribes named stars their own way.
Two Souls and Why the Elite Were Kept
Greg says Native Americans, like the Egyptians, held that each person has two souls: a life soul that animates the physical body, and a free soul of pure spiritual energy that keeps memory and identity and leaves at death. Most people were cremated, he says, their bones ground down and returned to the soil so the free soul could separate and reincarnate if needed. Chiefs and priests were preserved in stone chambers so their free soul could return to that same body, which Chance suggests is closer to resurrection, a word Greg adopts. Chance's outro ties the two souls to the body intelligence of his biofield work.
Quotes
“You've got one life. Do what you want to do. Explore, go out there and look, it's a big world.”
“If you sort of do the same thing repetitively in the rat race hamster wheel, life feels a lot shorter.”
“I tell people all the time that I'm sure no matter where you live in the United States, there are archaeological sites and Indian mounds somewhere near you.”
“There's sacred knowledge which almost nobody knows, and then there's common myth and commonplace knowledge, which is what the stories are.”
“The biofield of the body is a fractal microcosm of the entire universe, and it seems to me that our bodies actually know everything that there's available to be known.”
“John Keel did not believe that UFOs were extraterrestrial craft. He didn't think they were nuts and bolts. They were paranormal.”
“The free soul is spirit, is pure spiritual energy. It enters the physical body, which is the life soul, which gives us animation.”
“Don't forget that you're an expression of the universal ether, ultimate all-knowing akashic consciousness, and that means that your intuition can be trusted.”



















