Joakim Häggström | Pagan Roots, the Bock Saga, Dead Languages & Secret Societies of Sweden
Joakim Häggström is a leading researcher on the Bock Saga and occult linguistic history. In his second appearance on InnerVerse, we discuss how dead languages fuel the NWO power structure, the Swedish king Gustav the 1st, pagan connections to military traditions, Templars and other secret societies, and much more.
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In this episode
Core themes
Winter, Ideas and the Seasonal Mind
Joakim describes life near the Arctic, where summer brings almost endless daylight and long winters once kept households indoors. He hears the Swedish word for idea in the old word for winter hibernation, so that ideas are gathered in the cold months and brought forth in summer. Chance extends the image, reading hibernation as dreaming and summer as planting those dreams in action. Joakim then argues that climate shapes culture, contrasting northern lives built around storing food with the looser rhythms he sees in warmer lands, a broad generalization the two explore together.
The Bock Saga and Its Ancient Tongues
Chance invites Joakim to introduce the Bock Saga, which Joakim presents as an oral mythology brought forward by Ior Bock and told in Finnish, Swedish and English. Joakim says the saga holds that English is around ten thousand years old, formed from the Aser and Vaner languages, with Swedish keeping the older root tongue and Finnish carrying the other. These are the saga's claims as Joakim relays them, and he adds that the Germanic family plainly shares a common root. Chance offers his own view that English was cobbled together later for a servant class.
Dead Languages and Legal Control
Chance argues that Latin, called a dead language, survives mainly through the Vatican, and that legalese is Latin kept fixed so that definitions stay under the control of those who write the law, letting a decree from a century ago mean the same today. Joakim agrees, calling Latin and Russian made-up languages in his view and saying the church held a monopoly over reading and writing, with ordinary people at risk for learning it. These are the speakers' interpretations rather than established history.
Gustav Vasa, Templars and Military Ranks
Joakim tells how Sweden's break from Rome under Gustav Vasa, which he thinks may have been planned for generations, moved church taxes into state hands and spread reading through propaganda and the Protestant movement. He says the saga ties the Vasa kings to a sideline of the Bock family and calls Vasa a Templar. Joakim credits Gustav Adolf with pioneering modern warfare, and argues that military ranks such as captain and lieutenant carry a pagan counting of tens, while Chance adds the Latin root of decimate.
Hidden Orders, Architecture and the Finnish Temple
Chance questions the official histories of old cathedrals and universities, citing Harvard and arguing that its grand architecture appeared before any need for it. Joakim, turning to fraternal orders, says the Hospitallers and Templars were Jarl families who went underground when the church took Sweden and Finland, aiming to preserve pagan memory, though he calls parts of this speculation. He then describes a long effort by saga followers to reach what they believe is a temple in Finland, now awaiting funding, a foundation to receive donations, and a drilled camera.
Quotes
“It's interesting if you have this kind of perspective of nature and the cycles, how to use them, and it's sort of baked into the words also, the old words, how we used to live.”
“When you talk about hibernation, that's like dreaming and having your dreams. And then in the waking life, which would be the metaphor of summer, you put them into action, you plant those seeds.”
“The military ranks are ranks from within the pagan world system, and the costumes and everything is based on the heathen traditions.”
“David Whitehead says all the time, if you think the fake news is bad, how is the history? It's probably even more fake.”
“As I see it, it's those Jarl families, the Earl families, that went underground when the church took over the last part of Europe that was Finland and Sweden.”
“It's never been a better time to open up our minds and dump out all the stuff handed to us by the state and by the church and come in with a blank slate.”
“It's better to be like a child and start from the beginning. Sometimes that could be a nice attitude because if you bring all your luggage with you, maybe you miss something.”
“That's the funny thing about routines. When you're in them, time goes quicker and you're doing the same thing over and over again.”
Joakim Häggström ("Jocke") is a Swedish musician and researcher of lost mythology and history, known for his investigations into the Bock Saga, Northern European legends, and sound/frequency work.
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