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Podcast / INNER WHIRLEDEPISODE 9 · Sep 20, 2024 · 1h 9m
Mythology & History

Noah's Ark Decoded: Why Every Flood Myth in World Mythology Is the Same Story

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Noah's Ark Decoded: Why Every Flood Myth in World Mythology Is the Same Story

Every flood story across ancient mythology might be the same story told in different languages. Noah's ark, Kronos, Atlantis, the Hindu deluge, the Babylonian flood. Chance and co-host Dylan Saccoccio walk through the case that they all point to the same archetype and the same hidden meaning.

In this Inner Whirled session: the hidden meaning of Noah's ark, why so many flood heroes share the same traits across unrelated cultures, what Atlantis actually represents in Plato's writing, and the patterns that link the great father figures of world mythology.

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Chapters

In this episode

12 chapters
Continues in the full episodeMembers hear 160 more minutes28 more chapters
1:08:10Feet in the Virgin's Lap Decoded
1:16:54When You See the Egg, Infer the Ark
1:20:48Why We Throw Out Satanism Entirely
1:26:40Did Our Ancestors Believe the Earth Was Flat?
1:31:30The Earth as a Cosmic Womb
1:36:50Why the Flood Lasted 150 Days
1:38:46The Solar Bark Is Just an Ark
1:48:40Noah's Ark as a Wooden Cow
1:55:41How Italy Got Its Name
2:01:50Noah and the Mind Are One Word
2:11:23Why Bacchus Is Noah
2:14:36The Orphic Hymns Make All Gods One
2:22:25Phanes, Cronus and the Hindu Triad
2:27:07Kronos, Israel and the God of Time
2:29:53Amun, Ham and the Hidden Sun
2:35:31Janus: The Ancients Called Me Chaos
2:42:04Eros, Love as the Savior
2:44:50Horizon Zero Dawn Retells the Monomyth
2:50:10The Man in the Moon Is Noah
2:55:55Eight Souls Saved Through Water
2:58:59Josephus Points to the Chaldean Source
3:03:44In the Beginning the Goat Created
3:11:53John the Baptist and the Nile Flood
3:14:19Taylor Concludes Noah Never Existed
3:23:12Oannes Is Noah Spelled Backwards
3:31:41Dagon's Fish Symbolism in the Bishops
3:34:03A Roll Call of Flood and Creation Myths
3:43:43Newton's God Who Keeps Fixing the Planets

Core themes

5 themes
1

Every Flood Story Is Also a Creation Story

The premise the hosts build on is that deluge myths and cosmogonies are the same narrative told from opposite ends. Chance Garton leans on George Faber's Origin of Pagan Idolatry, which argues that ancient accounts blend creation and flood so tightly that neither can be told without the other, and reads that through Faber's doctrine of a succession of similar worlds, where each deluge marks the hinge between one age and the next. Garton points to the Greek aeon, translated in scripture as world but meaning age, as the linguistic tell that the Bible is describing cycles rather than a single beginning.

2

The Two Sources: A Renegade Reverend and a Reluctant Apologist

The episode runs on two nineteenth century authors. Robert Taylor was a reverend who walked away from the church and turned a scathing wit on scriptural literalism, and his astronomical theological lectures supply the astro theology side. George Faber was a genuine scholar but also a Christian apologist, and Garton notes he conceded that Gentile cosmogonies could not have been borrowed from Moses, that the Egyptian and Hindu systems predate the Israelite exodus, yet still insisted his own tradition stood apart. Garton describes him as ninety nine percent of the way there, with the last piece locked behind belief. Thomas Astle and Edward Lhuyd fill out the reading list.

3

The Etruscan Thread: Selvans, Salvation, and Baalbek

Dylan Saccoccio's central argument runs through Italy rather than the Near East. He cites Astle, who held that Saturn, Silenus and Herakles were all names of Noah, and that the Saxons called Hercules Erco. He traces the Latin Silvanus back to the Etruscan Selvans, notes Lhuyd's lexicon glossing the root as salvation and savior, and links Selvans to the caduceus, which he says also appears beside the temple on a Roman coin of Baalbek, the Heliopolis whose inscriptions name a Heliopolitan Jove. On his reading of the abecedaria, Etruscan looks older than Greek, and the Phoenician world's hub sits in Italy.

4

Reading Myths as Star Maps

Saccoccio treats the fables as encoded astronomy rather than history. He walks through the Welsh Dylan, son of the wave, born as a lump of flesh and hidden in a chest, which he equates with the ark and with the infant Moses, then ties him to Oannes, the Babylonian fish man whose name he derives toward Johannes and John. Math, whose feet must rest in a virgin's lap when not at war, becomes Virgo opposite Aquarius, and Saint Matthew becomes the royal star Fomalhaut in the southern fish. The sun then passes from man to fish to Aries, the lamb of God.

5

Plato's Chaos, Seven Sages, and the Divine Right of Kings

Garton brings in Plato's Timaeus, where the demiurge shapes the cosmos from a pre existing chaos rather than from nothing, and argues that this matches Noah floating the materials of the new world on the deluge before opening the door as the god of gates. He notes Solon among the seven sages, the seven rishis preserved in a boat with Menu in the Ordinances of Menu, the Babylonian Apkallu, and the seven aboard the ark, all pointing at one template. Saccoccio adds the political payoff: the divine right of kings was a chain of custody traced back to Noah as owner of the world.

Quotes

8 quotes
“We're going to really account for who is Noah anyway? What is the story of the Deluge representative of?”
“The fact that nobody ever talks about Atlantis being the island of Atlas, which is God, that is, in my opinion, the most important detail to the Atlantis mythos”
“The status quo thought Hercules was Noah. So what does that make Noah, right? It's this Jovian archetype”
“That's like the most extreme cognitive dissonance imaginable, that you're going to pretend the validity of this very supposed rational materialism, scientism, but then also you're going to believe this fable of the deluge”
“So the year was reckoned at four different times by four significant cultures, and that's what my work has shown”
“The sun moving through them goes from taking on the characteristic of a man to the characteristic of a fish, after which he will become the lamb of God, Aries”
“Noah's got the materials of the new world floating on the chaos of the deluge, and he comes out, he opens the door, god of doors, god of gates”
“The Hindu system more explicitly states that each deluge hero is the reincarnation of the original man, who is the great father reborn. So Adam and Noah are the same guy”
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Author, & Researcher of Philology, History, & the Occult

Dylan Saccoccio is the author of the Spirit Whirled series, The Real Universal Empire, and the Tale of Onora. After chasing language back as far as possible, he now explores other avenues to prove cultural diffusion of the ancient universal empire of priests, navigators, masons, and merchants. Find his latest of many hundreds of articles on Substack.

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