"We are Whole" Chance Garton on the Source Connection Podcast
Big thanks to The Source Connection for having me on! This conversation is from back in late October (I think), and I was still buzzing off the love at Music & Sky Festival.
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In this episode
Core themes
Measured Time Versus Subjective Time
Chance described two kinds of time, saying a Greek woman had told him after a fireside chat at Music & Sky that Greek has separate words for them. He called the clock kind measured time and defined subjective time as the growth a person goes through via experience and learning. Chance said people who spend years repeating a job they dislike often recall almost nothing from that stretch, and he argued that putting subjective time first lets the clock serve a person instead of ruling them. One host added that subjective time could also feel timeless.
From Sharpie Doodles to Full Time Podcasting
Chance described feeling unfulfilled after college and buying a pack of Sharpies to make something, which he said led to doodle merchandise and then to the InnerVerse Podcast. He explained that he began the show to learn how creatives turn their work into a livelihood. Chance said holding a day job alongside the podcast drained him, and that a turning point came when he replayed an album from his high school band and, in his telling, repaired his relationship with his younger self. He said he went full time on the show in the middle of the year before the recording.
Biofield Tuning and Learning on the Job
Chance said he heard Eileen Day McKusick on a podcast in 2019 and felt immediately drawn to her blend of science and mysticism. He explained that he was not certified in her program and learned the method from her books, practice, and experiment. Chance said that whatever help comes to a person is what that person is equipped to help with, and he described new lessons repeating in his sessions soon after he learned them. One host, who said she practiced acupuncture for fifteen years, described the same experience. Chance also said he was still collecting data on a possible pattern involving the left ankle.
Making It Up as You Go
Chance described the intellectual scaffolding of any craft as a way for ideas to rise from intuition, and he said that in a flow state the work felt like making things up as he went. He argued that this was not faking it, comparing it to a painter who could not know every brushstroke in advance. Chance said that if a person's intention is pure, deciding in the moment expresses their own authority. He also described source as creative intelligence that imagines reality, and one of the hosts called the blend of surrender and authority a yin and yang working together.
You Are Life and Letter Play
When the hosts reflected on the idea that life is always happening for a person, Chance offered some language behind the phrase you are life. He described the four Hebrew letters of the divine name as having several possible English transliterations, one of which he read as a word for life, and he took that to suggest that being holds both mother and father. Later Chance noted that Roma spelled backwards reads amor, which he glossed as love, and he wondered aloud whether the Roman system was an inversion of love. He framed both as wordplay he found suggestive rather than settled.
Quotes
“The best way I can define subjective time is like the growth of you as a being, the change that you go through as a being through experience and through learning and through all the other forms of growth that we're able to achieve in life.”
“I learned a long time ago that whatever the situation is coming to you, like whatever help somebody might be needing or asking for, that is exactly what you are equipped to help with. It wouldn't come to your sphere of awareness otherwise.”
“If you're truly connected to source, that's what source is. We're talking about the creative intelligence that self generates all reality. That creative intelligence, that source consciousness is literally imagination. It is actually making all of this up in every moment like an author.”
“It's actually okay to feel like you're making it up as you go. That doesn't make you inauthentic. It makes you in your authority.”
“I'm telling you, you are life. And so where life wants you to go is where you want to go.”
“Rome, in the Italians, they call it Roma. Roma backwards is amor, which is love. So is the Roman system an inversion of love? I don't know.”
“I'd love to hear just in your own words, however much you'd like to share just how you got here to this now moment with all of that and how that unfolded for you.”
“I'm Liz B. Well, some people call me Liz B. Some people call me other names here with my co-host and sister Tara Long and our very special guest, Chance Garton from the InnerVerse Podcast.”
