A Strange Biocharismatic Mosaic with Emily Moyer and Topher Gardner
Emily Moyer joins us tonight for her first Vibe Rant, along with bonus guest Topher Gardner. Is this combination a harbinger of the golden age of gnosis gravy? Make sure your feet are on the ground because we'll be taking your head to the stars!
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In this episode
Core themes
Ether, Power Lines, and the Costa Rica Farm
Topher described how million volt lines planned across his Costa Rica farm, which he helped redirect, changed the energetics of an area, and he relayed a view credited to Ken Wheeler that no electrons travel down a conductor and that the line only signals where the ether collapses to drive a load. He later recounted getting a set of accumulator devices to resonate in 2007 and said an older contact told him they had made a clean spot inside what that contact called a Tesla dome, a patch of quiet within a city's field of noise. The group traded stories about power lines as doorways.
Lake Reflections and the Upside Down City
Emily described running beside the lake before dawn and watching the skyline reflect perfectly on one side of an invisible line and not at all on the other, which she read as the edge of a vibrational bubble. She said the reflected Austin looked like a second city with more definition than the original, and she wondered whether everyone was living in the reflective reality. She also told of a rooftop night when the water showed her an abandoned hallway from a party years earlier, which she pointed out to the friends beside her.
Magic Squares, City Grids, and Sudoku
One of the hosts laid out how alliteration and doubled letters were said to invoke planetary magic squares, then described the grid of Boulder, Colorado as a six by six pattern that could be read as an offering to a particular divinity. The talk moved to city blocks that resemble QR codes, with one speaker imagining giant beings scanning cities from above. Emily said she once grew so good at Sudoku that it invaded her dreams, and she wondered whether that affinity pointed to earlier training in magic squares.
What Is the Point of Decoding
Topher said the prolific output of the shows he followed left him asking what the point of all the word breakdowns was, and he pressed on what a creator was literally implying. Emily said that when people could not explain an idea in plain English she wondered what they were trying to tell her, and she asked to hear the concept first and the wordplay second. Chance answered that he saw a system of intermediaries standing between people and nature, and that syncretism was his way of showing the same pattern running through law, language and myth.
Language, Allegory, and Sustained Attention
Chance said the value of language was to describe reality accurately and pass that observation between minds, and that fiction earned its value by carrying true information through allegory. He ranked the layers, from the plain request to bring him a rock, to the moral tale, to allegory vast enough to describe the cycles of nature. Emily later added that anything holding attention long enough probably had layers deep enough to learn from, and she joked about wishing for a power outage so she could finally read the unread books in her house.
Quotes
“As I see it, these massive, massive lines, because I saw them putting in these million volt lines all throughout Costa Rica, they tried to run it over my farm. We were able to stop them and they went to the valley across the way. It completely changes the energetics of the area. Really, really high voltage. It creates the door that you were talking about, Chance.”
“What I'm trying to say is there is no movement of electricity. There are no electrons flowing down the conductor. I just want to be clear about that. What the conductor does is the conductor gives the signal and then wherever the field needs to collapse, it collapses in that local environment.”
“When we explained our situation to him with what we were doing, he was like, Oh yeah, you guys made a clean spot. So when you got those cells to resonate, it created a clean spot, and they were calling it a Tesla dome.”
“It literally looks like there is just absolutely a second Austin in the water, and it's so interesting, there's definition there. There's things in the reflection that do not appear to be in the thing that we think of as the real world. I'm starting to think that maybe we're confused and we're living in the reflective reality.”
“I hadn't thought about that forever, so it wasn't like I was front loaded with thinking about that. And then it was like I was transported back to that. It was bizarre. And I was showing people that were on the roof, I was like, look at that. And I was pointing out, I was like, do you see the hallway? Do you see people waiting in the hallway?”
“My problem with these guys is they're prolific, they literally put out like 10 hours of stuff every week and so I jump into it and I'm like they're already, you know, three quarters of a way through a thought and then they're all riffing on each other. And I'm like, I'm not that symbolically literate yet.”
“So explain it to me in the language that I can understand. So I understand the concept and then say, now see what happens when I do it like this and how all of a sudden in a snap, I can understand quickly the same thing that it just took you five minutes or 10 minutes or three hours to explain to me.”
“And I go in on that and it might get a little complicated or seem out in the weeds or seem unimportant or unrelated to other things. But I'm always doing that to try to fill in other people's data bank with enough detail that they finally kind of click.”
“I had a spontaneous experience once that lasted over a day where I got dropped into it full blast. And ever since then, the code has been revealing itself to me through external teachers or other sources, or internal realizations, and it's accelerating now and getting more and more to where the code is revealing itself to me almost only through internal observation of my own observation.”
“And so what's the value of fiction? The value of fiction is other than what people are currently involved in it for, which is entertainment, taming the mind, the value of fiction is to, with allegory, transmit information that is true about reality from one mind to another. So allegory is like another layer or level of language. It's another dimension of language.”
“There's only one nature. There's only one cycle of seasons. There's only one way that a body grows. There's only one way that nature is sort of flowing like that, like a river. So to me, again, it's actually bringing the value back to mythology, if you will, or scriptures to point towards what it's referring to about nature.”
“But if people are not picking up what you're putting down, then we need to start saying, Hey, I don't understand what you're talking about, and not be afraid to feel like we're not cool because we don't understand whatever the latest lingo is. We need to make sure that the message we're trying to convey is actually what people are picking up.”
“There still is a part of me that has a small fantasy of the power going out for a period of time. So I don't have the option but to read all the books that are in my house, because I think all the answers I need are in the books in my house, I just keep ignoring them because of the distraction you're speaking of.”
Emily Moyer is a self-described "Reality Bender," life coach, nutrition guide, and YouTube podcaster exploring unity consciousness and alternative wellness topics.
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