Eclipse Eccentrics with Jorge Mesa (Third Eye Edify) & Slick Dissident
Get fired up tonight with friends Jorge Mesa (Third Eye Edify) and Slick Dissident, as we have an open ended hangout during tonight's solar eclipse energy.
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In this episode
Core themes
Jorge's Move and Free Range Childhoods
Jorge told Chance that he had moved his family from Long Island to Kentucky about three weeks earlier, drawn by his wife's midwifery training and the community around it. He praised the friendly neighbors, a trustworthy mechanic and local raw milk, and said he had not seen so many children playing together in the streets for ten or fifteen years. Chance and Gabe both responded warmly, and Chance congratulated him on the move and asked him to tell his wife to keep going with her training.
Kentucky, the Fool Card, and Dogman
The word epicenter sparked a bit of placenta wordplay, which led Gabe to explain his tarot map of the United States. Gabe said he had placed the Fool card in Kentucky, and he called the Mississippi River the placenta of the nation. He argued that Dogman lore in the southeastern hills and the Hellier series he binge watched reinforced that placement. Gabe also wondered aloud whether the phrase may the force be with you nodded to Charles Fort.
Sanchuniathon, Hades, and Greek Roots
Chance said he had been studying the Sanchuniathon, a Phoenician cosmology preserved through Eusebius and Philo of Byblos, and he called it a big game of telephone. He linked its figures Phos, Pyr and Phlox to Greek words for light and fire, and tied Phos to the New Testament phrase light of the world. Jorge said his Greek grandparents helped raise him and that Greek surfaced in nearly everything the hosts discussed. Chance added that Hades, filtered through the Roman Dis, still shaped English words like dissociative.
The Digamma, Musical Thirds, and Higgins
Chance asked Jorge why the Greek digamma, which carried the numerical value six, was moved to the end of the alphabet list. Jorge answered from music, saying two thirds make a chord and that a sixth inverts into a third. Chance pointed Gabe to The Prisoner, where the hero is Number Six, and the talk turned to the empty sixth seat in Plato's Symposium. Chance then read Godfrey Higgins quoting Bishop Marsh on the digamma letting deus be written Diws, plus another author who linked Zeus to the Hindu sky father Dyaus Pitar.
Dylan's Case Against Runic Antiquity
Dylan, who joined late after a gym session, spent much of the second half presenting inscribed artifacts he found suspicious, from Egypt's Famine Stela and the Vimose comb to the Negau helmet and a long line of Elder Futhark rune stones. His recurring argument was that most were not noticed until the 1600s or later, carried mediocre inscriptions, and would have needed priestly scribes if genuine. Dylan said he put truth ahead of any attachment to a theory, while the group floated the idea that some artifacts might be genuine but carved on later.
Quotes
“And what I have not seen in, you know, 10, 15 years is just seven, eight, 20 kids all running together in the streets, hanging on the corners. You knew who was where because their bikes was on the front lawn, right? You could just knock and see if somebody was home. It's here. It's here.”
“The Dogman mystery is right there in kind of southeastern Kentucky, the hills there is kind of the origin of a lot of Dogman mythology. And Dogman pops up in other spots, but that is a hotbed. And, you know, the Fool card's got that dog by his ankles there.”
“It made me really think of Fos, the Greek word for a pure, brilliant light. You know, it's even in the New Testament, whenever Jesus says, be the light of the world, he says be the Fos of the world.”
“The other thing is that I was with my Greek grandparents until my parents got home from work every day, you know. So I learned it from them.”
“When you say two threes, two thirds are how we make a chord. There's a major third and a minor third, or vice versa, minor third and a major third. So two threes is really a very hefty thing in music. It's the basis for all harmony that we use now.”
“You got to watch that show because like everyone in this village gets a number and the main character's number is number six. And he's the one they're trying to crack. And you know about your Enneagram and six, and they're trying to make people into sixes. And he's the six that is loyal to himself rather than loyal to a group and they're perplexed. They can't figure him out.”
“Why I'm so into the old sources like this early 1800s book from Higgins isn't necessarily because I think all his conclusions are right. But because he's citing so many other sources that you would just never hear about otherwise, but you can find like on archive.org.”
“I've been noticing like, oh wow, the ceremony, the tuning session was a few hours ago, and I'm just now remembering maybe even the next day I didn't close the space. It's easy to remember to open it up, but closing it. And that is also about grounding and letting go of that moment and going into the next moment.”
“If you do not serve truth first, you can kiss any delusional service to God that you think you're doing because truth must come first. And when I get corrected, the only thing that comes out of my mouth really is, oh, thank you. Like I want to be right.”
“It's beautiful in the aspect of go it alone. Being independent, self-reliant, all of that is badass. And it only gets stronger when you find a brother in arms who's equally as self-reliant, who you can see eye to eye, you know, and that's how you overthrow all that collectivism.”
“What I'm doing on my channel is I'm finding out that the filmmakers are casting one tarot read to a collective of people who did not know they were going in to the theater to have a tarot reading. And the effect of that is that there's a collectivist tarot psychological archetypal spell happening.”
“The world is not being enlightened by these rune stones. Like even if it was like waterfall, 200 paces, whatever, you know, if there was something like danger that necessitated going through this effort. And you just see these like mediocre inscriptions that don't really enlighten anybody on anything.”
“So again, we have another ancient Elder Futhark, not noticed by anybody until 1903. Not only that, but the inscription is the 24 Elder Futhark runes in order. Like if this was an archaeological find, it was the jackpot find for someone's career.”
Jorge Mesa is the creator of Third Eye Edify, exploring the mystical dimensions of Western music theory—including 432Hz tuning, solfeggio frequencies, and astrological correlations to musical tones—and has also spoken on gamification and social engineering.
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