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Podcast / VIBE RANTEPISODE 80 · Mar 9, 2023 · 3h 6m
Philology, Myth, and Hidden Ancient History

Lord Thrice GrEight's SofiaReign Philosophorium with Dylan Saccoccio & Slick

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Lord Thrice GrEight's SofiaReign Philosophorium with Dylan Saccoccio & Slick

Tonight we kick it with Dylan Saccoccio, Slick Dissident, and Jorge Mesa, as we unpack & syncretize our recent research threads.

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Core themes

5 themes
1

Body, Energy, and Personal Boundaries

Chance and Dylan opened with training, and Dylan described how a recovery plan, off day walking and a three day weekly routine changed his results. Chance then turned to energy vampirism, arguing that limiting beliefs formed early hold back a person's energetic reserve. He described love bombing and the sudden rug pull he called being juiced, recommended Psychic Vampires by Joe Slate, and argued that saying no and keeping a charged personal battery were the best protection. Gabe added a story about asking a partner honest questions instead of assuming.

2

Authority, Media, and the Peter Principle

The talk linked energetic dynamics to expertise. One speaker argued that the Dunning-Kruger effect explained confident people with low ability, and the group went on to the Peter principle, promotion to a level of incompetence. Jorge argued that a speaker addressing an audience with no chance of reply was automatically treated as an expert, and that this shaped how people received politicians, talks and online videos. Several speakers then traded stories about conflict, kindness and anger, and compared Southern and Northern manners.

3

Serpents, Bronze, and Hidden Pole Stars

Chance proposed that the Hebrew word Nakhash, meaning serpent, also meant bronze, and that Nehushtan, the brazen serpent, carried the same pairing. He noted that Moses, Messiah and Nakhash shared the gematria value 348 and asked whether the Bronze Age was code for a serpent age tied to the pole star moving from Thuban in Draco. Another panelist read the letters of Nakhash as salt, mercury and sulfur. A speaker tied Drakon's lawmaking to the Garden of Eden story, and a later speaker proposed that Prometheus matched Andromeda and linked the tower card to sulfur.

4

Dylan on Rome, Language, and Church Forgery

Dylan argued that Hebrew was constructed by priests from Chaldean syntax and Phoenician letters, and that Phoenician was Celtic. He claimed the New Testament showed monkish Latin and fourth century Greek, that Roman persecution of Christians was a later invention, and that the Inquisition destroyed American history. He cited Robert Taylor and Gibbon, said Prometheus without its aspirate P left Rome and Theos, and later read from Faber's work on the eight forms of the great parent. Chance supplied the Ogdoad and Buddhist parallels, and Jorge raised the dating of ancient music.

5

Bells, Necromancy, and Counter Artifacts

Jorge argued that music had no written record before roughly the Renaissance, so claims of ancient melodies could not be proved, and he described pentatonic scales as friendly to group ritual. The group moved to bells, and one panelist floated the idea that uncoordinated bells caused dissonance that the old world later removed. Chance read notes arguing that demonia originally meant the spirits of heroes who could be contacted for help, and another speaker applied that idea to necromancy. Near the end, a caller named Jake asked about cocaine found in Egyptian mummies, and Dylan said he doubted archaeological claims in general.

Quotes

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“I've learned how to do in one leap to take my body from 15 feet away, maybe even more on a good day, and do a flying elbow.”
“And that's what tuning does. It helps you see the beliefs about yourself that you had set in stone a long time ago and connect the dots to the life experiences that made you think that or expect that life was that way. And then you get to make a different choice.”
“I guess the answer is to start asking the questions instead of telling. Like I was putting out so much energy that I had never taken the time to show the receptive side of myself to ask her.”
“There's a deficiency in their own energetic integrity internally. And so they're looking for something external to feed on. And if that goes too far, it becomes like literally that's demonic. So your own battery, keep that charged, and you won't need to feed on anybody or anything else in the first place.”
“It's so different than even something like this where I get a response. You speak, you have everyone's undivided attention. So you're automatically an expert. And even people, if they feel like they have more of an expertise, they can't even raise their hand.”
“Thinking about the Bronze Age, right? There's so much crazy shit, mounds and architecture and inventions and all this that gets attributed to the Bronze Age, as if that explains it.”
“It's like, well, I guess that's in the realm of possibility, except that the Greek in that letter, in that epistle, is from the fourth century. And Paul was from the first century. So, no, I got you dead to rights from every single angle.”
“It means that everything you see in Italy, they basically destroyed the greatness of the old world and took over as the church. And they can't tell you that because the subsequent civilization that the church has produced is basically trashed compared to the old world.”
“Anything older than that, there's no written record of it, first of all. That's a guarantee. Unfortunately, music doesn't have a lot of writing until pretty recently, relatively speaking. But when they try to pass certain things off as ancient or older, I can tell that they're not.”
“When you want to sing and perform a ritual with an entire community, not everyone's gonna be a professional musician. It has to be simple, it has to be relatable and instantly recognizable. And I think that's why people love the blues, by the way.”
“Demonia in the original conception was referring to the spirits of heroes who passed over in death and could be contacted for help. Like when you look at all the 10 trillion saints of the Catholics, for example, that's literally demonology, but they just dress it up in their thing and they call them saints instead.”
“If you anchor the beginning of your research onto something that's fraud, it doesn't matter how good you are at research, your entire body of work can be built on a castle of sand. That's why I wrote Spirit Whirled, and why you guys do what you do. The more you can show people that what they're looking at is not real, not historical, the less we'll all be led astray.”
“There are some articles out there about Egyptian mummies that were dug up and apparently they've got traces of cocaine and the coca leaf, which is fun to think about because then that expands the global trade network that maybe wasn't really talked about much in public school.”
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Co-host of Vibe Rant; teacher of occult symbolism & tarot

Gabriel, known on air as Slick Dissident, co-hosts InnerVerse's Vibe Rant show and is a longtime recurring guest on the podcast. He teaches occult symbolism and tarot on his YouTube channel, ranging across the Major Arcana, the esoteric Enneagram, mythology and archetype, mystic linguistics, and the symbolism hidden in popular film. He is best known for Tarot-tories, his own system mapping the 22 Major Arcana and zodiac archetypes onto the geography of the United States.

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